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We never actually argued about monitors, but taxes.

And even then it wasn't much of an argument.

According to prad.de the response time is 6ms(grey to grey) and input lag is around 10-30ms. That's quite enough for me, and playing a wide variety of games so far I did not notice any significant blurring or corona effects.
I love this monitor, and especially the homogenous illumination while watching movies

As for the buzzing on the graphics card, I'll try out a dual link dvi cable and see if that makes any difference, other than that I don't know what to do, I've allready ran it with a dvd player and Xbox and had no problems so far... Would be a shame to RMA it just to get a lame refurb'd piece

ps. Rico, it's not the monitor that is buzzing, it's whatever gfx card that's connected to it that is making this buzzing noise...

psps. maybe it's the backlight that's somehow resonating with one of the gfx card components.

Which would indicate the cable, seeing as you won't be using a DVD player or an Xbox with a DVI.

As for the input lag, i remember the Prad review, i believe they said something like the average input lag for the 2209WA is really low, close to 0, but it can in some instances jump to 30. It's not too bad, most screens are higher than that on average. I believe even a Sony Trinitron has a bunch of input lag and it's a CRT.

And yeah an IPS is a definite improvement over a TN when it comes to movies: Good backlights and good contrast. Trying to find either on a TN is like trying to find a needle in a haystack: A haystack that does not have a needle. MVA/PVA is probably slightly better in that regard but nobody buys them anymore, they're super expensive. Except for TV's which are predominantly VA panels(some IPS exist too.)

I've seen plenty of people who rave on about the good contrast and black levels on a TN. And then they post a pic, which is basically a dark blue mess with bleeding all over: Then we realize it's supposed to be black, which means basically that the contrast sucks too.

I actually connected the Xbox through a HDMI cable with a DVI adapter and it looked great in 1920x1080 resolution. The dvd player was connected with a VGA cable. So yea, it might be the DVI cable, although I allready tried the cable that came with my older monitor(same single link DVI) and there's still that buzzing on the graphics card.

Btw, the 2209wa can run 75hz in native res

Can the 2209WA do aspect ratio scaling without a GPU telling it to do it though? If not, you should probably use the VGA cable that enables 1680x1050 resolution on Xbox 360: Bear in mind, it is actually better than 1920x1080 because it's the console that does the scaling, not the monitor. Also, no self-respecting Xbox game renders at 1080p: Most are below 720p. It'll be a scaled image regardless. But with a VGA you could at least get the proper aspect ratio (16:10.)




Yeah i know, it's actually rare for an LCD. Mine can do it on any resolution except the native one. >_>

The only aspect ratio it does is 4:3 or wide and it's all interpolated. As for the native res, funny thing is that once I hooked up the HDMI through the DVI adapter to the console it showed pretty much all the same resolution options that you get through the VGA cable, though they tend to look better on the hdmi cable than the VGA - always a bit sharper/clearer. I'm quite aware that everything above 720p is internally upscaled in the Xbox so the output tends to look blurred and AA goes out the window. But i was playing Forza3 in 1920x1080 on the 2209wa and it looked great on the HDMI cable. The change of ratio from 16:9 to 16:10 is not an issue for me because I hate to play games with black bars on top and bottom, so I can live with the slight stretching.
My old HP w2207 had 1:1 scaling but I've never actually used it, altough at the time I bought it I was specifically looking for a monitor with that option

You are a weird, weird person.

Why are two small black bars bothering you but stretching isn't? I mean, if you remove the bars, you get the picture of a 16:9 aspect ratio screen; 16:10 screens are physically larger than a comparable 16:9 so you're not missing anything with the black bars. They're just there. You know what else is there? The actual frame of the monitor. Black bars bother you but the frame doesn't? :/

I don't mean to imply that you're one of them, but most people who hate black bars are actually stupid. They believe they see less of the picture with them. But you don't believe that, yet they still bother you?

Does not compute. I'll take black bars over stretching any day, not to mention you get the sharpness of the native resolution. I can't see how you live with black bars on a movie, they'll be horrendously large. Yet some people would still choose pan and scan or stretching to completely ruin the picture.

I know that I'm not missing anything, I guess it's just a leftover from TN panels with backlight bleeding that was noticable whenever I played 16:9 content with black bars on top and bottom... the white spots on the borders were fucking irritating. It's a matter of habit

oh. fuck. yea. D: didn't actually read a word u blokes said. i saw a huge piles of text from u, monks, and gref, and i was like "lol. not again."

anyhoo. carry on. dont mind the lamer lurker. D:

My screen does aspect ratio scaling and if a game on my PC doesn't support widescreen properly(for example, you lose viewing area or it'll stretch) i'll play with black bars. Even 4:3 content. Having the full surface area of the screen used is of course preferred but if i ever have to sacrifice something else, i'll use whatever ratio works best with the said game.

Dawn of War 1 sucks at widescreen for example, so i play it with 4:3 ratio; Thus huge black bars on either side. The only thing really bothering me is the very lack of widescreen itself, not the bars.

More like a mutual arse raping from our governments and the EU.

And from what I gathered we were pretty much in agreement on that subject.

Same here.